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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft wants to patent Enlightenment Technology</title>
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		<title>By: Pramod Venugopal</title>
		<link>http://xcomputerman.com/pages/archives/2004/02/26/microsoft-wants-to-patent-enlightenment-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Pramod Venugopal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh if you look through the patent application on pages 2 and 3 , the graphic example shown is a drawing of KDE and Gnome. You can see the Gnome foot and KDE K very clearly so they have submitted evidence of prior art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh if you look through the patent application on pages 2 and 3 , the graphic example shown is a drawing of KDE and Gnome. You can see the Gnome foot and KDE K very clearly so they have submitted evidence of prior art</p>
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		<title>By: Bernhard</title>
		<link>http://xcomputerman.com/pages/archives/2004/02/26/microsoft-wants-to-patent-enlightenment-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2004 12:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of the Microsoft patent application for the &quot;Virtual
Desktop&quot;, proving prior art is trivially easy.  Here&#039;s a handy short
link I created: http://tinyurl.com/2q76j

It is well known in the Unix community that the virtual desktop first
appeared in the Solbourne window manager (swm, also known as ParcPlace
window manager) programmed by Thomas E. LaStrange.  Solbourne was a
manufacturer of computer workstations and suitable software (just like
Sun). It can still be downloaded from the X Consortium&#039;s file server:
ftp://ftp.x.org/R5contrib/swm.tar.Z
Unpack it, and look in the man directory for more information.  The
manual file swm.1 of this distribution dates from February 26, 1992.


Other places in the WWW confirm that the swm introduced this
functionality. To name a few:
http://cns.georgetown.edu/~ric/wm/
http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/winmgr.html
http://www.decus.de:8080/HELP/TVTWM/VIRTUAL_DESKTOP


Personally, I&#039;ve been a user of a newer piece of software by Thomas
E. LaStrange, tvtwm. Here&#039;s the section of its manual page that
pointed me towards swm:

&gt; man tvtwm

----- begin manual page ----

TVTWM(1)                                                 TVTWM(1)



NAME
       tvtwm - Tom&#039;s Virtual Tab Window Manager for the X Window Sys&#173;
       tem

SYNTAX
       tvtwm [-display dpy] [-s] [-m &#124; -M] [-k] [-f initfile] [-v]


DESCRIPTION
       Tvtwm is a window manager for the X Window System based on the
       X11R5  version of twm.  It includes a ``Virtual Desktop&#039;&#039; fea&#173;
       ture that effectively makes the  root  window  of  the  screen
       larger  than the physical limits of the display.  To change as
       little as possible in this manual, from  here  on  the  window
       manager is referred to as twm.

[...]
VIRTUAL DESKTOP
       The Virtual Desktop feature of tvtwm  was  modeled  after  the
       same  feature  in swm (Solbourne Window Manager).  The Virtual
       Desktop effectively makes the ``root&#039;&#039; window of  the  display
       larger  than the physical screen size.  The Virtual Desktop is
       panned in one of two ways, either  by  executing  one  of  the
       f.scroll commands or by using the panner.

       The  panner is a special window that shows a miniature view of
       windows on the desktop.  The small windows in the panner  will
       have the same colors as the titlebars and icons of their asso&#173;
       ciated client windows.  The panner is very simple to  operate.
       Mouse  button  one,  pressed  inside the panner, allows you to
       move the outline indicating your current view on the  desktop.
       Releasing  the button will reposition the desktop to the point
.....

For more info against software patents
go to http://swpat.ffii.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of the Microsoft patent application for the &#8220;Virtual<br />
Desktop&#8221;, proving prior art is trivially easy.  Here&#8217;s a handy short<br />
link I created: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2q76j" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2q76j</a></p>
<p>It is well known in the Unix community that the virtual desktop first<br />
appeared in the Solbourne window manager (swm, also known as ParcPlace<br />
window manager) programmed by Thomas E. LaStrange.  Solbourne was a<br />
manufacturer of computer workstations and suitable software (just like<br />
Sun). It can still be downloaded from the X Consortium&#8217;s file server:<br />
<a href="ftp://ftp.x.org/R5contrib/swm.tar.Z" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.x.org/R5contrib/swm.tar.Z</a><br />
Unpack it, and look in the man directory for more information.  The<br />
manual file swm.1 of this distribution dates from February 26, 1992.</p>
<p>Other places in the WWW confirm that the swm introduced this<br />
functionality. To name a few:<br />
<a href="http://cns.georgetown.edu/~ric/wm/" rel="nofollow">http://cns.georgetown.edu/~ric/wm/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/winmgr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/winmgr.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.decus.de:8080/HELP/TVTWM/VIRTUAL_DESKTOP" rel="nofollow">http://www.decus.de:8080/HELP/TVTWM/VIRTUAL_DESKTOP</a></p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve been a user of a newer piece of software by Thomas<br />
E. LaStrange, tvtwm. Here&#8217;s the section of its manual page that<br />
pointed me towards swm:</p>
<p>> man tvtwm</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211; begin manual page &#8212;-</p>
<p>TVTWM(1)                                                 TVTWM(1)</p>
<p>NAME<br />
       tvtwm &#8211; Tom&#8217;s Virtual Tab Window Manager for the X Window Sys&#173;<br />
       tem</p>
<p>SYNTAX<br />
       tvtwm [-display dpy] [-s] [-m | -M] [-k] [-f initfile] [-v]</p>
<p>DESCRIPTION<br />
       Tvtwm is a window manager for the X Window System based on the<br />
       X11R5  version of twm.  It includes a &#8220;Virtual Desktop&#8221; fea&#173;<br />
       ture that effectively makes the  root  window  of  the  screen<br />
       larger  than the physical limits of the display.  To change as<br />
       little as possible in this manual, from  here  on  the  window<br />
       manager is referred to as twm.</p>
<p>[...]<br />
VIRTUAL DESKTOP<br />
       The Virtual Desktop feature of tvtwm  was  modeled  after  the<br />
       same  feature  in swm (Solbourne Window Manager).  The Virtual<br />
       Desktop effectively makes the &#8220;root&#8221; window of  the  display<br />
       larger  than the physical screen size.  The Virtual Desktop is<br />
       panned in one of two ways, either  by  executing  one  of  the<br />
       f.scroll commands or by using the panner.</p>
<p>       The  panner is a special window that shows a miniature view of<br />
       windows on the desktop.  The small windows in the panner  will<br />
       have the same colors as the titlebars and icons of their asso&#173;<br />
       ciated client windows.  The panner is very simple to  operate.<br />
       Mouse  button  one,  pressed  inside the panner, allows you to<br />
       move the outline indicating your current view on the  desktop.<br />
       Releasing  the button will reposition the desktop to the point<br />
&#8230;..</p>
<p>For more info against software patents<br />
go to <a href="http://swpat.ffii.org" rel="nofollow">http://swpat.ffii.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: sketkar</title>
		<link>http://xcomputerman.com/pages/archives/2004/02/26/microsoft-wants-to-patent-enlightenment-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>sketkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how open source deals with such situations but there must be something the GPL license and EUL that prohibits patenting of open source innovations. Because basically patenting voids the basic principles of what open source stands for.  Am I wrong? I can&#039;t believe microsoft can just blatantly steal technology like this. Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how open source deals with such situations but there must be something the GPL license and EUL that prohibits patenting of open source innovations. Because basically patenting voids the basic principles of what open source stands for.  Am I wrong? I can&#8217;t believe microsoft can just blatantly steal technology like this. Just my 2 cents.</p>
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